A Reply to:

              Why We Reject Jesus by Tropism1
When quoting from the JPS: The Holy Scriptures by the Jewish Publication Society 1917
When quoting from the NJPS: Tanakh-The New JPS Translation

              About 2000 years ago, Christians abandoned the law of Moses and began
                 to worship a Galilean named Jesus of Nazareth.
                 They encouraged their Jewish brethren to join them in idolatry.
                 The answer was no, and unremitting Christian hostility became the norm.
                 Jews rejected Jesus because of these claims of divinity.
                 In addition, they refused to believe a dead man could be messiah,
                 especially when he himself was not clear on this issue. Did Jesus believe
                 himself to be the messiah?
                 He did not (Matthew 22:41-46; Mark 12:35-37; Luke 20:41-44). He tacitly
                 admitted he was not the messiah.

Reply: Did he really?
“Yeshua…said, 'Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, so that the Son may glorify you-….and eternal life is this: to know you the only true God, and him who you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.'” Jn 17:3 Jewish N.T.
“He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jo'nah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did.” Matthew 16: 15-17 NWT
“The woman said to him: “I know that Mes·si'ah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one arrives, he will declare all things to us openly.” Jesus said to her: “I who am speaking to you am he.” John 4:24-26 NWT

                   The gospels still call Jesus the son of David.
                      Why?
                      To prove that he was the messiah, who was prophesied to be of the house
                      of David.
                      Both gospels give genealogies to try prove their point. Both fail
                      miserably:

                      1. How many generations were from David to Jesus?
                      Matthew lists 28 generations (1:6-16).
                      Luke lists 43 generations (3:23-31)

Additionally, genealogical lists help us to understand matters otherwise obscure. For instance, Samuel appears to be an Ephraimite at 1 Samuel 1:1, where Samuel's father Elkanah is called an Ephraimite. But the genealogical list of 1 Chronicles 6:19-28 shows us that Samuel and Elkanah were the descendants of Levi  So Samuel was actually a Levite, qualified for tabernacle service.
Matthew's genealogy should not be wondered at, however, for genealogical lists were at times abbreviated. For example, Ezra lists twenty-three names in his priestly genealogy at 1 Chronicles 6:3-14 but lists only sixteen for the same period when giving his own genealogy at Ezra 7:1-5.
These can all be explained, but it goes to show that Scriptures do not necessarily follow the 21st century ways of doing things.

               2. Matthew's genealogy includes Jeconiah(Jehoiachim), a wicked king
                 cursed so that his descendents would never again sit on the throne (Jeremiah
                 22:24-30)

Reply: Jesus is not affected here as the scriptures stress the importance of being through him mother's bloodline.

              3. G-d vows that Jeconiah will be childless. Matthew mistakenly says
                 that he bore Salatheil, an ancestor of Jesus.

Reply: The Tanakh disagrees, "and the sons of Jeconiah, the captive: Shealtiel his son" 1Chron 3:17 It is quite obvious that YHVH does not carry the curse to the extreme that you do.

                   Problems with Jesus' genealogies in Luke (ascribed to Mary by Christian
                      tradition):
                      1.Descent from Nathan: the messiah was only through Solomon.
                      2.Tribal lineage in Jewish Law was always through the male, not the
                      female.

Reply: But this denies the scriptural importance of having to be born through an ALMAH/young woman/maiden. Solomon is from Joseph's family line/genealogy while Nathan's is from Mary's.
The Bible lays stress on the importance of having lineage through Mary. “Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and he shall be called Emmanuel [God-with-us]. Septuagint Bible (We will have more on this later).

              Paul knew about these problems and told his disciple Timothy not to pay
                 attention to "endless genealogies."(1 Timothy 1:4) In other words, he told
                 Timothy not to bother himself with the facts!

Reply: Paul did not have access to the Gospel writings, as some were probably written AFTER his letters.
The “endless genealogies” you refer to probably occurred as a source of pride.
The Jewish Encyclopedia, speaking of the early centuries of the Common Era, says: “How prolific these Biblical books [Chronicles] were in provoking genealogical conceits is shown by the statement [in the Babylonian Talmud, Pes. 62b] that 900 camel-loads of commentary existed on I Chron. viii. 37 to ix. 44. . . . Much mischief must have been done by this speculation on family origins and pedigrees.”—Vol. V, p. 597 (1910).

              When the gospel's couldn't find verses, they made them up, like Matthew
                 2:23: "And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth; that it might be
                 fulfilled...he shall be called a Nazarene." This verse exists nowhere in the
                 Jewish scriptures.

Reply: As usual, the whole verse is not quoted. The Matthew 2:23 does not appeal to the Jewish Scriptures, but instead, “that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through the prophets.” This refers to oral tradition combined with a play on the word NETSER , “And there must go forth a twig out of the stump of Jesse; and out of his roots a sprout [nétser] will be fruitful.” Isaiah 11:1
When Jewish Scripture is quoted, it is often quoted as “It is written” like it is 2 chapters later (cf. Matthew 4:4, 6, 7, 10).

               Jews always have been a problem for Christendom. Jesus' own people
                 rejected him and survived to tell of it! Now 2000 years have passed, Jesus is
                 not yet returned, and the Jews are triumphantly returned to their land. The
                 Messiah will appear, the temple will be rebuilt, and Christianity will once
                 and for all be proven false!

Reply: Well, at least we picked a Messiah. “From Josephus it appears that in the first century before the destruction of the Temple [in 70 C.E.] a number of Messiahs arose promising relief from the Roman yoke, and finding ready followers.” (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. X, p. 251) The Jewish Encyclopedia lists 28 false Messiahs between the years 132 C.E. and 1744 C.E.—Vol. X, pp. 252-255.
What did God say concerning the Jews? "I will no longer accept the house of Israel, or pardon them. . . . you are not my people and I will not be your God." (Hosea 1:6, 9 NJPS) Thus, those apostate Israelites would not remain in God's favor. Only a faithful remnant would one day be privileged to be restored and again experience divine blessings.
The late historian Theodore H. White, himself a Jew, candidly admitted: "There are almost as many different sects of Jews, who quarrel with each other, . . . as there are among Protestants"? Time magazine, calling attention in 1987 to the squabbling religious factions within Israel's 120-member political body, the Knesset, write: "Some durable solution must be found if Israel . . . is not to become a house fatally divided against itself"?
The determination of modern Judaism offers little hope for the future. By trusting in human politics to realize their Messianic hope, Judaism has ignored the words of its own sacred writings: "It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man. . . . Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help."—Psalm 118:8; 146:3, The Holy Scriptures, published by the Jewish Publication Society of America.
In contrast with the difficulty many Jews today have in identifying their Messianic hope (see above), a number of their ancestors back in the first century C.E. had no difficulty doing so. (cf. John 1:41.) They became followers of the One they accepted as the Messiah, becoming zealous proponents of a religion we can aptly call "The Way of Faith, Hope, and Love."

                      The Jewish view of Jesus can basically be summed up as follows:
                      Yeshu (Yeshua, Jesus) of Nazareth practiced sorcery and led people
                      astray.
                      He was an idolator and heretic who mocked the Rabbis.
                      He was stoned/hung on the eve of Passover for his crimes by a Jewish,
                      not a Roman court.
                      The authors of the Talmud imply he was the son of an adultress , the
                      hairdresser Mary (Miriam) and a soldier named Pandera/Panthere.

Reply: Max Dimont says in his book Jews, God and History that though the Pharisees carried on the torch of Jewish ideology and religion, “the torch itself had been ignited by the Greek philosophers.”
I personally do not put much faith in Talmudic opinions with Greek pagan philosophical overtones. They would not carry much weight with any Christians.

              The earliest of these Talmud sources date from a time well before the
                 Gospels reached their final form.

Reply: “The Jewish life and the thought of the Talmud is not the Jewish life and though of the NT [New Testament] period simply, and while this mine of information often does illustrate the NT, it has also misled scholars who projected elements of the Talmudic period into the NT period, where they had not yet appeared.” Dictionary of the Bible, John L. McKenzie, S.J., p.867   stop

                   The arguments over Jesus intensified during these first three centuries
                 of the common era until the church came to full power in 325 CE. At the
                 Council of Nicaea in that year, a pagan Roman emperor, Constantine, made
                 Christianity the official religion to shore up his tottering empire.
                      This council deified Jesus, cutting the new religion off forever from
                 its Jewish roots and incorporated elements of pagan cultss to win over their
                 adherents.

Reply: I agree with the above. The Trinity is never mentioned in the Bible. It is not a New Testament teaching, nor was it espoused by Jesus. Many recognize this:
"You simply simply cannot find the doctrine of the Trinity set out anywhere in the Bible. St Paul has the highest view of Jesus' role and person, but nowhere does he call him God. Nor does Jesus himself explicitly claim to be the second person of the Trinity, wholly equal to his heavenly Father." -- For Christ's Sake by Tom Harpur (Anglican Priest).
"The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan." -- The Paganism in Our Christianity
The Encyclopedia of Religion says: "Theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity."
Yale University Professor E. Washburn Hopkins: "To Jesus and Paul the doctrine of the trinity was apparently unknown; . . . they say nothing about it." -- Origin and Evolution of Religion.
The Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching." -- (1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.
Bible believers have often gone against scripture and paid for it, but it does not make the message wrong.
Were not the Jews sent to exile in Babylon because of unfaithfulness to God in worship?
You can consider most Christians in sort of a spiritual exile.

                   This mutated church began several centuries of persecution of its
                 Jewish mother, censoring the sections of the Talmud that referred to Jesus
                 and Christianity.
                      Only within the last century have the censored parts been restored to
                 printed versions of the Jewish Talmud.

Reply: It is the Talmud that mentions the ritual removal the "Tetragrammata" (YHWH) from the "Books of the Minim" (Christian Scriptures/New Testament) at Talmud Shabbat 13 (14:5) BY THE JEWS. So these accusations can go both ways.
George Howard has done extensive study on the Divine Name in the New Testament and has this to say:
"The removal of the Tetragrammaton from the New Testament and its replacement with the surrogates KYRIOS and THEOS blurred the original distinction between the Lord God and the Lord Christ, and in many passages made it impossible which one was meant. ..Once the Tetragrammaton was removed and replaced by the surrogate 'Lord', scribes were unsure whether "lord" meant God or Christ. As time went on, these two figures were brought into even closer unity until it was often impossible to distinguish between them. Thus it may be that the removal of the Tetragrammaton contributed significantly to the later Christological and Trinitarian debates which plagued the church of the early Christian centuries." George Howard, The Name of God in the New Testament, BAR 4.1 (March 1978), 15
In an interesting twist, it may be that Judaism led to the problems in Christianity.

             JESUS IS NOT THE MESSIAH!

                 1. Scriptural References
                 In order to understand anything in the Torah one must look at the original
                 Hebrew.
                 You will see that the Christians distorted, changed and misinterpreted
                 many of the Hebrew words in order to fit things into their beliefs.
                 The two places that are good examples.
                 In Psalm 22:17 the Hebrew states "hikifuni ca'ari yaday veraglay" which
                 means "they bound me (hikifuni) like a lion (ca-like ari-lion), my hands
                 (yaday) and my feet (ve-and raglay-my feet).
                 The Christians translate this as "they pierced my hands and feet".
                 Nowhere in the entire Torah, Prophets and Writings do the words ca'ari
                 or hikifuny mean anything remotely resembling "pierce".

Reply: The Christian Bibles I mainly use, the New World Translation, New Revised Standard Version, Revised English Bible, New English Bible and the official Catholic Bible, the New American Bible, do not used the word "pierce" here. So much for the Christian distortion. I personally use Zechariah 12:10 here to prove my point, which is quoted later at John 19:37. What does that scripture say? "And they shall look unto me because they have THRUST him through." JPS The Hebrew word here for THRUST is DAQAR which is also translated as "piercing" in the JPS at Proverbs 22:18.

              In Isaiah 7:14 the Hebrew states "hinei ha'almah harah veyoledet ben"
                 "behold (hineih) the young woman (ha - the almah- young woman) is
                pregnant (harah) and shall give birth (ve-and yoledet-shall give birth)
                 to a son (ben)".
                 The Christians translate this as "behold a virgin shall give birth."
                 They have made two mistakes (probably deliberate) in the one verse. They
                 mistranslate "ha" as "a" instead of "the".
                 They mistranslate "almah" as "virgin", when in fact the Hebrew word for
                 virgin is "betulah".

Reply: The great Hebrew grammarian, William Gesenius, stated:

"Peculiar to Hebrew is the employment of the article to denote a single person or thing (primarily one which is as yet unknown, and therefore not capable of being defined) as being present to the mind under given circumstances. In such cases in English the indefinite article is used" [Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar, § 126q].
In this section Gesenius listed many examples including the *'almah* of Isaiah 7:14. Though Gesenius did not support the virgin birth, he nevertheless supported the use of the indefinite article in an English translation of this passage. In other words, according to the grammar and the context, the identity of the *'almah* was unknown to the participants of the story and to the prophet's audience.
The word ALMAH is never used in the Bible where it necessarily means anything other than virgin. The word occurs seven times in the Hebrew Bible:
Gen 24:43--where the word refers to the virgin Rebekah.
Exod 2:8--where the word refers to Moses' sister Miriam. She was obviously a virgin at the time Moses was born?
Psa 68:25--where the word refers to the female musicians in the procession escorting the king. There is no reason to question the virginity of these young women?
Song 1:3; 6:8--where the word refers to the attendants of Solomon's queens and concubines. There is no reason to question the virginity of these choice young women either.
I especially like how the Bible uses the 2 terms BETULAH and ALMAH:
Genesis 24:16 "The maiden [*na'arah*] was very beautiful, a virgin [*bethulah*]; whom no man had known." NJPS
In this verse Rebekah is referred to as a *bethulah*, but the text adds the qualifying clause "no
man had known her." Such a qualifying clause would be unnecessary if *bethulah*
unambiguously meant "virgin." Later in the same story, Rebekah is referred to as an *'almah* (vs.
43) without any qualifying clause.
Interestingly, the Septuagint (LXX), a Greek translation made by Jews before Christ used the word PARTHENOS here, the same word used for "Virgin" in the New Testament.
Christians do not need only chapter 7 verse 14 to point to proof from Isaiah. Consider the following literal fulfillments from the same book:
The birth of Immanuel Is 9:6a [Matt 1:23; Luke 1:31-33; 2:7-11]
The revival of the Davidic dynasty Is 11:1 [Matt 1:6, 16; Acts 13:23; Rev 5:5; 22:16]
Incarnation of Jesus Christ Is 28:16 [Matt 21:42]
Preaching of John the Baptist Is 40:3-5 [Matt 3:3; Mark 1:3; Luke 3:4-6; John 1:23]
Jesus at baptism and transfiguration Is 42:1a, 2, 3 [Matt 3:16, 17; 17:5]
Jesus beaten and spat upon Is 50:6 [Matt 26:67; 27:26, 30; Mk 14:65; 15:19; Lk 22:63; Jn 18:22]
Jesus setting his face towards Jerusalem Is 50:7 [Lk 9:51]
Israel failing to recognize her Messiah Is 53:1 [Jn 12:38]
Philip identifies Jesus as the one written of Is 53:7,8 [Acts 8:32,33]
Jesus remains silent during trial Is 53:7 [Matt 26:63; 27:12-14; Mk 14:61; 15:5; Lk 23:9; Jn 19:9; 1Pet 2:23]
Jesus is the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world Is 53:7 [Jn 1:29; 1Pet 1:18,19; Rev 5:6]
Jesus was innocent of charges Is 53:9 [1Pet 2:22]
Jesus needed to be slain besides 2 criminals Is 53:11 [Lk 22:37]
Christ's resurrection was important to his occupying David's throne Is 55:3 [Acts 13:34]
Jesus fulfilled the call to the daughter of Zion by his triumphal entry Is 62:11 [Mt 21:5]

              Aside from the fact that if you read the context of that prediction you
                 will see clearly that it is predicting an event that was supposed to
                 happen and be seen by king Achaz who lived 700 years before Jesus!

Reply: Now you really have to ask yourself, "Why would God bless Achaz with a young boy, "Immanuel [With us is God]" (Is. 7:14) after he had "burned his sons in the fire, in the abhorrent fashion of the nations which the LORD had dispossessed before the Israelites." (2Chron 28:3 NJPS).
              2. Genealogy
                 He was not descended from the House of David. According to Jewish law,
                 tribal identification comes from the father's side, being Jewish, from
                 the mother's side.

Reply: Since the importance of the virgin birth, as laid out in both Hebrew and Greek scriptures, it is quite evident that God is not interested in following Jewish law here, as Jeremiah 8:8,9 says, "How can you say, 'We are wise, And we possess the Instruction of the LORD'? Assuredly, for naught has the pen labored, For naught the scribes! The wise shall be put to shame, Shall be dismayed and caught; See, they reject the word of the LORD, so their wisdom amounts to nothing." NJPS

              According to Matthew 1, Joseph was descended from David (Although there
                 are many contradictions between his genealogy there and that listed in
                 Luke, however according to the same text, Joseph did not have sexual
                 relations with Mary, therefore Jesus was not related to Joseph, and not
                 a descendant of King David.
                 Three answers to this problem are given in classic Christian sources:
                 The genealogy is that of Mary - This is inadequate, since if he is
                 claimed to be the Jewish messiah, and according to Jewish tradition he
                 must be descended on his father's side, Mary's genealogy is irrelevant.
                 He was adopted by Joseph -According to Jewish law, adoption does not
                 change the status of the child. If an Israelite is adopted by a Cohen,
                 (A descendant of Aaron the High Priest), the child does not become a
                 Cohen, likewise if a descendant of David, adopts someone who is not, he
                 does not become of the tribe of Judah and a descendant of David.
                 It doesn't matter, he was a spiritual inheritor of King David - If it
                 doesn't matter, why do Christian scriptures spend time establishing his
                 genealogical pedigree? And if he is claimed to be the Jewish messiah,
                 then according to Jewish tradition it does matter!

Again, I have answered alot of this above.Well, consider the facts. The Bible, in the Hebrew Scriptures, set forth certain rigid qualifications for the one to be the Messiah. Among these requirements, he was to sit on the "throne of David." (Isa. 9:6, 7; Jer. 33:20, 21; Acts 2:29, 30) He had to be a natural heir of King David of the tribe of Judah. And he had to be of the kingly line, inheriting the kingly right, which was in the hands of David's posterity through his son and successor King Solomon.
Does Jesus Christ have proof of this from genealogical records? Yes, he does. He was of the tribe of Judah and the lineage of David by natural birth through his mother, who descended through David's son Nathan. (Luke 3:23-38) And he had the legal right transferred to him through his foster-father Joseph, who was from David through King Solomon. (Matt. 1:1-17) Details of this genealogy are a matter of public record in the Bible. Only the Bible record of this lineage remains.
How do we know that the record of Jesus' line of descent is accurate? Because those records that appear in Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 agreed with (and were likely taken from) the official public registers of that day, which were open to all to examine. This explains why the learned men of the Jews, the scribes and Pharisees and the Sadducees, who bitterly opposed Jesus, never uttered one breath of challenge of this genealogy. It is of interest, too, that no Gentile enemy of Christianity, among which were astute men, made any criticism of Jesus' genealogy until after 70 C.E. (when the public records were destroyed during the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans.)Of course, they could make false claims then because no one could check the public registers for himself to detect their false claims.

                 3. Messianic Predictions
                 The main predictions concerning the Messiah are that he will bring peace
                 to the world, gather the Jewish people from their exile to the land of
                 Israel and rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem.
                 After Jesus' appearance, the Temple was destroyed, the Jews were exiled
                 all over the world and we have not even had one day of peace in the past
                 2,000 years. (Many of the wars in fact were started and fought by
                 followers of Jesus)

Reply: It is true that many of the worlds woes were started by those claiming to be Christian. But even Jesus and the rest of the New Testament writers knew of the "great apostasy." Consider:

"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and days with tears." (Acts 20:29-31) (New International Version)
"But relative to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Messiah, and our gathering together to [meet] Him, we beg you, brethren, not to allow your minds to be quickly unsettled or disturbed or kept excited or alarmed, whether it be by some [pretended] revelation of [the] Spirit or by word or by letter [alleged to be] from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has [already] arrived and is here. Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first- that is, unless the [predicted] great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come - and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition)." (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3) (Amplified Bible)
see also 2 Thessalonians 2:4-9
"Dear Friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord... These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm -shepherds who feed only themselves... These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. . .But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires." These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit." (Jude 3, 4, 12, 16-19) (New International Version)
1 Timothy 4:1-5 says:
"The Spirit distinctly says that in later times some will turn away from the faith and will heed deceitful spirits and things taught by demons though plausible liars - men with seared consciences who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by believers who know the truth. Everything God created is good; nothing is to be rejected when it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by God*s word and by prayer." (The New American Bible)
Probably the best prophecy on the Christian apostasy was spoken of by Jesus Himself at Matthew 13:24-30,36-43. Verses 24-30 read:
"Jesus told them another parable: "The Kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed
good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed
weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads,
then the weeds also appeared. The owner's servants came to him and said, "Sir, didn't
you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?" "An enemy did this", he replied. The servants asked him, "Do you want us to go and pull them up?" "No", he answered, "because while you are pulling the weeds, you root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned, then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn." (New International Version)
Jesus did not leave this open to interpretation, he explains the rest:

                                "Then he left the crowd and went into the
                                house. His disciples came to him and said,
                                "Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the
                                field". He answered, "The one who sowed the
                                good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the
                                world, and the good seed stands for the sons
                                of the Kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the
                                evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the
                                devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and
                                the harvesters are angels. As the weeds are
                                pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be
                                at the end of the age. The Son of Man will
                                send out his angels, and they will weed out of
                                his Kingdom everything that causes sin, and all
                                who do evil. They will throw them into the
                                fiery furnace, where there will be weeping
                                and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will
                                shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their
                                Father. He who has ears, let him hear."

When Jesus was on earth, he spread a specific message, "the seed of wheat", that resulted in his followers and believers, "the wheat". But when his co-workers [the apostles and the disciples died, or "went to sleep", an enemy, the Devil, now oversowed the body of believers with
others, "the weeds", who were different than the original community. This resulted in a contamination of the true faith by Jesus and his original followers. Only during "the end of the age", would we see a harvesting that would bring together once again the wheat, but separate from the weeds.

              These events are enough to show that he was not the messiah.
                 The main Christian responses to these objections are:
                 The Second Coming - First of all, we find this to be a contrived answer,
                 since there is no mention of a second coming in the Jewish Bible.
                 Second, why couldn't G-d accomplish His goals the first time round.

Reply: One author puts it this way: "How can God's reign have begun and yet heathendom remain unmoved? The answer is given in Daniel 7: the Reign of God would not be established easily- the one like a Son of Man must given over to tribulations for a time, two times and half a time...and only then exalted to God's presence and given the kingdom." p.52 The Myth of God Incarnate, Frances Young/John hicks editor
Why must he undergo tribulations? Because of a legal principle in God's law for the nation of Israel. It states that 'life should be given for life.' (Exodus 21:23) By disobedience the perfect man Adam lost perfect life for himself and all his children. Jesus Christ gave his own perfect life to buy back what Adam lost. As the Bible explains, Jesus "gave himself a corresponding ransom for all."-1 Timothy 2:5, 6.
 "The Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many." Matt 20:28/1Tim 2:6
John 1:29 "Behold, the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world!"
1 Cor 15:45 "The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit."
1 Cor 15:22 " For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
It is only fitting that this happened on Nisan 14, the same night as the Jewish Passover.

              4. Messiah's Qualifications
                 Messiah is a prophet, a scholar and a pious king. Jesus made a
                 prediction that "The time is fulfilled, the kingdom of God is at hand."
                 (Mark 1:15) That was 2000 years ago, has the kingdom of God come? Do you
                 call the holocaust, Pol Pot and Stalin a world in which the kingdom of
                 God has come? Jesus was not a great scholar - one of the requirements of
                 the Messiah. Was Jesus a king? He was not anointed as king by a prophet
                 (as was the rule in Jewish kings), he was not appointed by any judicial
                 body as a leader and he did not rule over the Jewish people nor was he
                 accepted by them. He was arrested, tortured and killed like a common
                 criminal. He had no army or government. The answer to my question is an
                 obvious, "No."

Reply: I have tackled alot of this above relating to Christendom's apostasy. But why did the Jews in general not accept Jesus as the Messiah?
The Encyclopaedia Judaica says: “The Jews of the Roman period believed [the Messiah] would be raised up by God to break the yoke of the heathen and to reign over a restored kingdom of Israel.” (Jerusalem, 1971, Vol. 11, col. 1407) They wanted liberation from the yoke of Rome. Jewish history testifies that on the basis of the Messianic prophecy recorded at Daniel 9:24-27 there were Jews who expected the Messiah during the first century C.E. (Luke 3:15) But that prophecy also connected his coming with 'making an end of sin,' and Isaiah chapter 53 indicated that Messiah himself would die in order to make this possible. However, the Jews in general felt no need for anyone to die for their sins. They believed that they had a righteous standing with God on the basis of their descent from Abraham. Says A Rabbinic Anthology, “So great is the [merit] of Abraham that he can atone for all the vanities committed and lies uttered by Israel in this world.” (London, 1938, C. Montefiore and H. Loewe, p. 676) By their rejection of Jesus as Messiah, the Jews fulfilled the prophecy: “He was despised, and we esteemed him not.”—Isaiah 53:3, JPS.
Before his death, Moses foretold that the nation would turn aside from true worship and that, as a result, calamity would befall them. (Deuteronomy 31:27-29.) The book of Judges says that this occurred repeatedly. In the days of the prophet Jeremiah, national unfaithfulness led to the Jews being taken into exile in Babylon. God also allowed the Romans to destroy Jerusalem and its temple in 70 C.E. Of what crime and unfaithfulness had the nation been guilty so that God did not protect them as he had done when they had put their trust in him? It was shortly before this that they had rejected Jesus as the Messiah.
Embrace the Name of the Jewish God
The preface of the American Standard Version (1901) states:

 "the American Revisers, after a careful consideration, were brought to the unanimous conviction that a Jewish superstition, which regarded the Divine Name as too sacred to be uttered, ought no longer to dominate in the English or any other version of the Old Testament, as it fortunately does not in the numerous versions made by modern missionaries. This Memorial Name, explained in Ex. iii. 14, 15, and emphasized as such over and over in the original text of the Old Testament, designates God as the personal God, as the covenant God, the God of revelation, the Deliverer, the Friend of his people;-not merely the abstractly 'Eternal One' of many French translations, but the ever living Helper of those who are in trouble. This personal name [Jehovah], with its wealth of sacred associations, is now restored to the place in the sacred text to which it has an unquestionable claim."
By cutting us off from his name, the Jewish forefathers have cut us off from God. The Hebrew Bible over and over again stresses the importance of this name:
Joel 2:32: And it must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe NWT
Zeph 3:9: For then will I turn to the peoples of a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of Jehovah, to serve him with one consent.
Ps 118:26/Mt 21:9 Mk 11:9, Lk 19:38:  Blessed be he that cometh in the name of Jehovah
Again and again the Hebrew Bible places great stress and importance on His name (cf. Ps 79:6; 80:18; 99:6; 105:1; 116:4, 13, 17; Is 4:1; 12:4; 43:7; 63:19 Jer 10:25; 14:9), after all, it is in there over 6800 times. Most nominal Christians are guilty of rejecting the Name too.

GOD’S NAME IN THE TALMUD—WHAT MEN SAID
“It was ordained that a man should greet his friends by mentioning the Name.”—Berakhot 9:5.
“Thus did he [the High Priest on the Day of Atonement] say: O JHVH, Thy people, the House of Israel, have committed iniquity, have transgressed, have sinned before Thee. I beseech Thee by the Name JHVH . . . And when the priests and the people that stood in the Court heard the glorious and revered Name pronounced freely out of the mouth of the High Priest, in holiness and purity, they knelt and prostrated themselves, falling on their faces, and exclaiming: Blessed be His glorious, sovereign Name for ever and ever.”—Yoma 6:2.
“In the Sanctuary the Name was pronounced as written; but beyond its confines a substituted Name was employed.”—Sotah 7:6.
“At first the High Priest used to proclaim the Name in a loud voice; but when dissolute men multiplied, he proclaimed it in a low tone.”—The Jerusalem Talmud, Yoma 40d.
“[Among those excluded from the world to come is] he who pronounces the Name according to its letters.”—Sanhedrin 10:1.
“Whoever explicitly pronounces the Name is guilty of a capital offence.”—Pesikta 148a.

The phrase “proclaim His name” may also be translated “call him by his name.” (Compare The New English Bible.) The same Hebrew construction is found at Genesis 12:8, where it is translated by the Tanakh: “[Abram] invoked the LORD by name.”

"And God said further: You must tell the Israelites this, that it is Jehovah the God of their forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, who has sent you to them. This is my name for ever; this is my title in every generation." Exodus 3:14, 14 New English Bible

"No; I, Yahweh [Jehovah], do not change." New Jerusalem Bible



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