Author:
Walter R. Martin
Taken from: http://www.webzonecom.com/ccn/cults/jw-005.txt
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
AND THE TRINITY
The doctrine of the Holy
Trinity has been consistently
misunderstood, probably
more than any other teaching of the
Bible. Frequently investigation
into the doctrine of the Trinity
has been dismissed from
serious discussion or study by invoking
the time-worn assertions
- "It's a great mystery" or "This is
incomprehensible" -
thus discouraging many from investigating the
scriptural basis of
the doctrine.
Truth:
Mr. Martin is one of those that has promoted this assertion in another
book
about the Witnesses where he says, "The Trinity itself is a
mystery
or a "holy secret". It is incomprehensible. It can never be fully understood."
Since the Watchtower
denies that the Trinity doctrine is
Biblical; and since
they complicate the issue by defining it
incorrectly - the task
of true Christians is two fold: First, a
definition in accord
with historic Christianity must be given.
Secondly, it must be
shown that the doctrine of the Trinity is
both Biblical and essential
to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
THE HOLY TRINITY
Definition: Within the
unity of the One God there are three
Persons, the Father,
the Son and the Holy Spirit; and these three
share the same Nature
and attributes. In effect, the three
Persons ARE the one
God.
My
Response: Well here is the Nicene Creed:
"I
believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and
of all things visible and invisible: And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the
only begotten Son of God, begotten of his Father before all worlds; God
of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being
of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; Who for
us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and was incarnate by
the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified
also for us under Pontius Pilate, he suffered and was buried; and the third
day he rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with
glory to judge both the quick and the dead whose kingdom shall have no
end. And I believe in the Holy Ghost the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth
from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is
worshipped and glorified, who spake by the prophets. And I believe one
catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission
of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the
world to come. Amen."
But
that wasn't good enough, so they brought about the Athanasian Creed many
years later:
"
. . . we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding
the persons, nor dividing the substance. For there is one person of the
Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead
of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one: the glory
equal, the majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and
such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate, and the
Holy Ghost uncreate. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible,
and the Holy Ghost incomprehensible. The Father eternal, the Son eternal,
and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals, but one
eternal. As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated,
but one uncreated, and one incomprehensible.
"So
likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Ghost almighty.
And yet there are not three almightys, but one almighty. So the Father
is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet there are not
three Gods, but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord,
and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords, but one Lord. For like
as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every person
by himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the catholic religion
to say there be three Gods and three Lords.
"The
Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten. The Son is of the
Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of
the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but
proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three
Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is
afore or after other; none is greater or less than another. But the whole
three persons are coeternal together, and coequal. So that in all things,
as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be
worshipped. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.
. . . "
I
hope that clears everything up. I certainly wouldn't want to give an incorrect
definition.
From this concise statement,
similarly set forth in many
theological texts,2
it is clear that the Christian Church does
not believe that "there
are three gods in One." Quite to the
contrary, we affirm
that there is but one God, as Scripture
repeatedly asserts (Deut.
6:4, Isa. 43:10, 1 Tim 2:5).
Notice
that he quotes first from the Hebrew Scriptures at Deuteronomy and Isaiah.
I wonder how many trinitarian Jews there are?
Unless
otherwise stated, all scriptures will be quoted from the RSV.
Having defined the Christian
doctrine of the Trinity, it becomes
necessary, secondly,
to demonstrate inductively from the Bible
that it is true.
Yes, let's define it first, THEN we will go to the Bible to back it up.
To accomplish this, we
begin with one basic premise: If it can be
shown from Scripture
that there are three persons, all of whom
are called Jehovah (God),
then, since there is only one Jehovah
(Isa. 44:6, 48:12),
those three Persons are the one God. Things
equal to the same thing
are equal to each other.
I don't know about you, but I am pretty excited:)
Just how it is possible
for three to be One and for that One to
be three, will also
be explained. But first, the evidence:
1. THE FATHER IS JEHOVAH
Jehovah's Witnesses are
quick to agree with the Apostle Peter
that the Father is called
Jehovah. Moreover, Peter and many
other Biblical writers
identify Him as a "person" (2 Peter
1:17). It is therefore
unnecessary to press this point, the
Witnesses having already
conceded it.
You see that Mr. Martin has to do this piecemeal. There is no ONE scripture that puts them together in ONE triune godhead.
However, we would point
out that the word "person" is, by
definition, descriptive
of "ego" or "I." Without "ego," which
distinguishes man from
the beast, personality as such would cease
to exist. Any reputable
lexicon of Greek dictionary will
substantiate the fact
that the Greek word "ego," is the basis for
our English term, "I."
Jehovah designates His Being as The Great
I AM (Ex. 3:14): So
the Deity is Personal and possesses Ego, the
hallmark of Personality.
Or
as the Greek Septuagint Version (the translation that was often quoted
by the apostles in the first century C.E.) reads, e·go' ei·mi'
ho Ohn', "I am the Being."
The
Revised Standard Version(RSV) has in it's margin, "I WILL BE WHAT I WILL
BE"
2. THE SON IS JEHOVAH
A careful study of the
first chapter of Revelation (vs. 11-18)
will show that Jesus
Christ, the Son of Man, identifies Himself
as "the first and the
last" and "the one who became dead" and who
now lives for all eternity.
It is of no small significance
that in verse 13 of the last
chapter of Revelation,
He confirms this title with great
emphasis, identifying
Himself in verse 16 as "I Jesus," and
declaring that He is
"the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and
the end, the first and
the last." The context reveals that it is
Jesus speaking (vs.
12), for He - not the Father - is coming
"quickly" (Rev. 1:7;
1 Thess. 4:15,16).
It must never be forgotten
that these titles ("the first and the
last," "the Alpha and
the Omega'" "the beginning and the end")
belong only to Jehovah
God (Isa. 44:6,8; Rev. 1:8, 21:6). But
Jesus Christ claims
them as His own, because He, the Son is also
Jehovah!
Truth:
Revelation 21:6, 7 indicates that those who are spiritual conquerors are
to be 'sons' of the one known as the Alpha and the Omega. That is never
said of the relationship of Christians at that time to Jesus Christ. Jesus
spoke of them as his 'brothers.' (Heb. 2:11; Matt. 12:50; 25:40) But those
'brothers' of Jesus are referred to as "sons of God." (Gal. 3:26; 4:6)
At Revelation 22:12, (Good News Bible)TEV inserts the name Jesus, so the
reference to Alpha and Omega in Re 22:13 is made to appear to apply to
him. But the name Jesus does not appear there in Greek, and other translations
do not include it. At Revelation 22:13, the Alpha and Omega is also said
to be "the first and the last," and this phrase is applied to Jesus at
Revelation 1:17, 18. Just like the phrase "apostle" is applied both to
Jesus Christ and to some of his followers. But that does not prove that
they are the same person or are of equal rank, does it? (Heb. 3:1) So the
evidence points to the fact that the title "Alpha and Omega" applies to
Almighty God, the Father, not to the Son. If Jesus really was the Alpha
and Omega, there would have been no need to spuriously insert his name
at Revelation 1:11 like some have done(KJV), and that goes for the TEV
in the Revelation 22:13. Maybe the TEV should have read ahead at verse
18 where it says, "I, John, solemnly warn everyone one who hears the prophetic
words of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to his punishment
the plagues described in this book." TEV
Just a little side note...if you read Revelation 1:1 that it was an angel
that was relaying all this to John. Yes! It was an Angel who actually said
spoke and said,"I am the Alpha and Omega". Hmmmm!
We see, then, that there
are either two firsts and two lasts (a
hopeless contradiction
of terms), or the Son is Jehovah, the one
who was pierced for
our sins (Zech. 12:10; Rev. 1:7,11,13) and
who is truly "the fullness
of Jehovah in flesh" (Col. 2:9).
Truth: This scripture says nothing of the kind. He has several times already misquoted scripture to suit this erroneous belief. Since I already have my TEV open, it says at Col.2:9, "For the full content of divine nature lives in Christ, in his humanity" Remember, he is the Son of Jehovah according to Martin. How can a son be his own Father?
The angel who showed
John the wonder Revelation forbade the
Apostle to worship him,
for he was but a created being, a "fellow
servant." Quite properly,
he declared, "worship Jehovah," (Rev.
22:9). Yet Jesus Christ,
whom Jehovah's Witnesses say is also a
created being (i.e.,
Michael the Archangel),
Truth:
Even John Calvin said he was the Archangel Michael. See:
http://www.ccel.org/c/calvin/comment2/dan9-13.htm
John
A. Lees, The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, 1930,
Vol.
3, page 2048 states: >
"The
earlier Protestant scholars usually identified Michael
with
the preincarnate Christ, finding support for their view,
not
only in the juxtaposition of the "child" and the archangel
in
Rev 12, but also in the attributes ascribed to him in Dnl"
commended the
worship of Himself as
Jehovah (John 20:28,29). This would have
been a blasphemous act
of presumption on His part and a direct
violation of His Father's
commandments (Ex. 20:3; Deut. 6:17),
unless He were in some
mysterious sense on in Nature and Being
with His Father. In
such a case He would in truth be "equal with
God" and entitled to
receive worship as Jehovah(John 5:18,23).
Truth: If you read the context of John 20:28,29, you will see that Jesus commended nothing of the sort. In fact, several verses later in v.31 we will see what Jesus commended. "but these are written that you may beleive that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God." We have to remember when Thomas surprisingly exclaimed "My lord and my God" that "God" in biblical times was a very relative term. In Judges 13:20-22 and Psalms 8:5 angels are referred to as "God". In Exodus(which Martin quotes above) 7:1, Moses is referred to as God. In fact, when Jehovah appeared to Moses in the burning bush at Exodus 3, that was really an angel(see v.2).WHY? Because like Jesus, angels are messenger of Jehovah. Judges are also referred to as gods at Psalms 82. Let us not forget that Jesus is referred to also as an "only-begotten God" at John 1:18 (NASB) Jehovah and the Holy Spirit are never referred to as such.
But
let's look at John 5:18: "This was why the Jews sought all the more to
kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath but also called God his
Father, making himself equal with God."
It
was the unbelieving Jews who said that Jesus was trying to make himself
equal with God by claiming God as his Father. While properly referring
to God as his Father, Jesus never claimed equality with God. He stated
afterward "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own
accord, but only what he sees the Father doing." (John 5:19; see also John
14:28; John 10:36.) It was those unbelieving Jews, too, who claimed that
Jesus broke the Sabbath, but they were wrong about that also. Jesus kept
the Law perfectly, and he declared: "It is lawful to do good on the sabbath."-Matt.
12:10-12.
Jehovah's Witnesses have
always taught that Jesus Christ was no
more than a perfect
man, "certainly not the supreme God Almighty
in the flesh."3 They
state categorically that He was in no sense
both God and man. "Some
insist that Jesus while on earth was
both God and man. This
theory is wrong."
Truth: But yet Mr. Martin will use the above scriptures, while Jesus was on earth, to make that very assumption. Do you see how complicated it gets."For God is not a God of confusion" 1Cor.14:33
4 Jehovah's Witnesses
also maintain that our
Lord was "the first and direct creation of
Jehovah God," and that
prior to His earthly life He was an
angle.5(sic)
In contrast to this teaching,
Scripture and the Christian Church
declare the full Deity
of Jesus Christ, and His equality with God
the Father.
Truth: Jesus himself called the father,"the only true God."[John 17:3] He called the Father "my God"[John 20:17] He also said,"the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing."[John 5:19] He also said, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone."[Mark 10:19] He also said"Father, if thou art willing, remove this cup from me; nevertheless not my will, but thine be done."[Luke 22:42](I thought Jesus was God???) He also said, "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!"[Luke 23:46](Is Jesus talking to himself here???) Jesus also said, "But of that day or that hour no one knows...nor the Son, but only the Father."[Mark 13:32](If Jesus is God, why doesn't he know???) He also said, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"[Mark 15:34](Did he forsake himself???)
What else does the Bible say?
"For
there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ
Jesus." 1Timothy 2:5
"the
head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the
head of Christ is God." [1Corinthians 11:3]
"Are
you not from ancient times Yahweh, my God, my Holy One, who never dies."
[Habakkuk 1:12] Jerusalem Bible (Jesus died remember)
"He
is the image of the unseen God and the first-born of all creation." Colossians
1:15 Jerusalem Bible
"the
beginning of God's creation" Revelation 3:14
"God
cannot be tempted with evil" James 1:13 yet Satan did try to tempt Jesus
at Matthew 4:4
"God
raised him up" Acts 2:24 (Did Jesus raise himself up?)
"Although
he was a Son, he learned obedience through what he suffered." Hebrews 5:8
(God can learn obedience?)
"God
exalted him at his right hand" Acts 5:31
"But
he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God,
and Jesus standing at the right hand of God." Acts 7:55 (Why wasn't the
Holy Spirit in heaven with the other 2?)
"No
one has ever seen God" John 1:18
"He
is the image of the invisible God" Col. 1:15
"the
king of ages, immortal, invisible, the only God" 1Timothy 1:17
"you
cannot see my face; for man shall not see me and live." Exodus 33:20
"No
man has ever seen God" IJohn 4:12 (But people have seen Jesus,hence, he
cannot be God)
In the first verse of
John's Gospel, Christ is revealed as the
eternal Word of God
who became flesh (verse 14) - the "image of
God" (2 Corinthians
4:4). Consider the emphasis "in the
beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God and the Word
was God" John 1:1).
Note that John 1:1 states
that the Word already was in the
beginning - it does
not say the Word "became" or "was created" by
God, as Jehovah's Witnesses
teach. The Witness incorrectly
translate this text
to read "the Word was a god,"6 but their
translation is by both
context and grammar an impossibility
according to all recognized
authorities on Greek. No recognized
translation bears out
their error.
Truth:
Lets take a quote from a biblical scholar:
"The
Greek phrase is theos en ho logos, which translated word for word is "a
god was the word."
Greek
has only a definite article, like our the, it does not have an indefeinite
article, like our a or an. If a noun is definite, it has
the
definite article ho. If a noun is indefinite, no article is used. In the
phrase from John 1:1, ho logos is "the word." If it was
written
simply logos, without the definite article ho, we would have to translate
it as "a word". So we are not really "inserting"
an
indefinite article when we translate Greek nouns without the definite article
into English, we are simply obeying rules of
English
grammar that tell us that we cannot say "Snoopy is dog," but must say "Snoopy
is a dog."
Now
in English we simply say "God"; we do not say "The God." But in Greek,
when you mean to refer to the one supreme
God,
instead of one of the many other beings that were called "gods," you would
have to say "The God": ho theos. Even a
monotheistic
Christian, who beleives there is only one God and no others, would be forced
to say in Greek "The God," as John
and
Paul and the other writers of the New Testament normally do. If you leave
off the article in a phrase like John 1:1, then you
are
saying "a god." (There are some exceptions to this rule: Greek has what
are called noun cases, which means the nouns
change
form depending on how they are used in a sentence. So, if you want to say
"of God," which is theou, you don't need
the
article. But in the nominative case, which is the one in John 1:1, you
have to have the article.)
So
what does John mean by saying "the word was a god"? He is classifying Jesus
in a specific category of beings. There are
plants
and animals and humans and gods, and so on. By calling the Word "a god,"
John wants to tell his readers that the
Word(which
becomes Jesus when it takes flesh) belongs to the divine class of things.
Notice the word order: "a god was the
word."
We can't say it like this in English, but you can in Greek. The subject
can be after the verb and the object before the
verb,
the opposite of how we do it in English (subject-verb-object). Research
has shown that when ancient Greek writers put a
object-noun
first in a sentence like John 1:1 (a be-verb sentence: x is y), without
the definite article, they are telling us that the
subject
belongs to the class represented by the object-noun: :"The car is a Volkswagen."
In English we would accomplish the
same
thing by using what we call predicate adjectives. "John is a smart person"
= "John is smart." So we would tend to say
"The
word was divine," rather than "The word was a god." That is how I would
translate this phrase. "The word was a god" is
more
literal, and an improvement over "The word was God," but it raises more
problems, since to a modern reader it implies
polytheism.
No
one in John's day would have understood the phrase to mean "The word was
God" - the language does not convey that
sense,
and conceptually it is difficult to grasp such an idea, especially since
that author has just said that the word was with
God.
Someone is not with himself, he is with some other. John clearly differentiates
between God from the Word. The latter
becomes
flesh and is seen; the former cannot be seen. What is the Word? John says
it was the agent through whom God made
the
world. He starts his gospel "In the beginning..." to remind us of Genesis
1. How does God create in Genesis? He speaks
words
that make things come into existence. So the Word is God's creative power
and plan and activity. It is not God himself,
but
it is not really totally separate from God either. It occupies a kind of
ambiguous status. That is why a monotheist like John
can
get away with calling it "a god" or "divine" without becoming a polytheist.
This divine thing does not act on its own,
however,
does take on a kind of distinct identity, and in becoming flesh brings
God's will and plan right down face to face with
humans.
Jason
Beduhn
Northern
Arizona University
Department
of Humanities Arts and Religion
Moreover, the Scriptures
proclaim that Christ made "himself equal
with God" (John 5:18),
Truth: No, that was the unbelieving Jews(read the context). It was those unbelieving Jews, too, who claimed that Jesus broke the Sabbath, but they were wrong about that also. Jesus kept the Law perfectly, and he declared: "It is lawful to do good on the sabbath."-Matt. 12:10-12.
and that "in him dwelleth
all the fullness
of the Deity bodily"
(Colossians 2:9).
Truth: Let's take a look at this carefully. The Good News Bible(TEV) translates it "divine nature", Goodspeed translates it "divine quality" as does Weymouth. Schonfield translates it "divine wisdom". Fact is, the greek "the·o'tes" can mean all these things. What does the context say? Colossians 3:1 says that "Christ is seated at the right hand of God." How can you sit at the right hand of God if you're supposed to be fully God?
The Bible further states
that Christ claimed
to be the great I AM (Jehovah) of the Old
Testament (cf. Exodus
3:13-16 with John 8:58),
Truth: So did a beggar in John 9:9. He must be Jehovah too, by this faulty reasoning.
and the Jews
understood Him so clearly
during His ministry that they sought to
stone Him to death for
blasphemy (John 8:59; cf. 10:28-33).
Truth: Can you follow this reasoning? They also understood him so well that they rejected him as their savior. I'm alot more stupid for just saying that:)
Jehovah's Witnesses pervert
these texts and many others in their
determined effort to
demote our Lord from His position of God and
Creator (Colossians
1;
Truth:
Colossians 1:15,"He is the image of the invisible God; the firstborn of
all creation."
"You
simply simply cannot find the doctrine of the Trinity set out anywhere
in the Bible. St Paul has the highest view of Jesus'
role
and person, but nowhere does he call him God. Nor does Jesus himself explicitly
claim to be the second person of the
Trinity,
wholly egual to his heavenly Father."-For Christ's Sake by Tom Harpur(Anglican
Priest).
Hebrews 1); and they
compound their error
by translating the Greek
of the New Testament, in many places,
contrary to all grammatical
authorities.
Truth: As we have already seen...this is a lie.
It is certainly true
that during His earthly
life our Lord voluntarily limited Himself
as a man (Philippians
2:6-8),
and thus He never strove
to usurp
the prerogatives of
Deity; But one does not have to "rob" what is
His by inheritance (Hebrews
1). He was true Deity - "the great
God" (Titus 2:13).
Truth: "As we await the blessed hope, the appearance of the glory of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ." New American Bible (As you can see, they are different)
We must not forget that
Christ humbled Himself, even to the death
of the cross, and therefore,
as a man, could say, "My Father is
greater than I" (John
14:28). However, let us remember that
Christ never said, "My
Father is better than I." "Better" is a
term of comparison between
natures (Heb 1:4), while "greater," as
in the context of John
14, is a term of comparison relative to
positions.
The President of the
United States, for instance, is greater in
position than any of
his fellow-Americans by virtue of his
office, but he would
be the first to insist that he is not better
than other human beings.
So Christ was admittedly inferior to
His Father positionally
while on earth as a man, but the
Scriptures clearly and
unmistakably state that he was at all
times His Father's equal
on the spiritual plane of Divine Being
or Nature (Heb. 1:3;
John 5:18). Note also that in 1 Corinthians
15:28 it is function
that is dealt with - not Deity.
Truth:
The President is not part of a Trinity either. The President is not of
the same substance as his Father is he?
1John
5:9 it states:"If we recieve the testimony of men, the testimony of God
is greater." Does that mean that the testimony of God is NOT better than
man's. What faulty reasoning.
Hebrews
1:3 states that Jesus sits at God's right hand. Is my right hand man my
equal? And where is the Holy spirit in all the visions of heaven. None
of them make mention of the person of the holy spirit.(Acts 7:55,56; Revelation
7:10; 22:1,3)
John
5:18 is one of Walter's favourites...it is too bad that he has to rely
on unbeleivers to make his point.
"Function"
is not even mentioned at 1 Corinthians 15:28;"27-He has put all things
in subjection under his feet. But in saying 'all things', it clearly means
to EXCLUDE GOD WHO SUBORDINATES THEM; and when ALL THINGS are thus subject
to him, then the SON HIMSELF will also be made SUBORDINATE TO GOD who made
all things subject to him, and thus God will be all in all. New English
Bible
Jehovah's Witnesses always
point to Christ's humanity in the
Bible; they carefully
omit mention of His claim to full Deity,
and they thus "wrest...the...scriptures,
unto their own
destruction" (2 Peter
3:16). the second Person, the Son, is also
called God, then, despite
the efforts of the Watchtower to prove
the contrary.
Truth: What is destructive is that Walter Martin wants you to believe that the Son is Jehovah. The Son is Jesus Christ, God's only-begotten Son. John 3:16 In every instance in the Bible, a "son" is separate from his "Father"...and sub-ordinate. We use the BIBLE to interpret scripture, not some Platonic Pagan Trinity.
3. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS JEHOVAH
It is peculiar, to say
the least, that Jehovah's Witnesses can
agree with the Apostle
Peter when he declared that the Father is
Jehovah - and then contradict
his affirmation that the Holy
Spirit is likewise Jehovah,
as recorded in Acts 5:3 and 4.
Truth: Again, it says nothing of the kind. See below.
No Christian theologian
has ever denied either the Person or
Deity of the Holy Spirit,
for the evidence to substantiate both
is abundant in Scripture.
Truth:
Well, lets take a look at the Bible then. Jesus is referred to as "theos"
3 times in the NT, and once in the OT. The Holy Spirit is never called
"theos." What is the spirit?
Gen.
1:2 "The Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters."
or..."a
might wind swept over the waters." New American Bible
Basically
speaking, the holy spirit is the breath or power of God. Or as the NWT
says, "active force." That is why in Acts 5, if you lie the the Holy Spirit,
you are in effect lying to God.
For instance, a thorough
study of the
book of Acts, chapter
thirteen, reveals that the Holy Spirit is a
Person, because He possesses
"ego." Luke records therin that the
Holy Spirit as a Person
has "ego" (13:2,4) and, furthermore, that
He (not "it") prophesies
to His servants and commissions them, as
well (21:11). See also
such verses as John 14:26, 15:26, Acts
8:29, 13:2, and Romans
5:5.
Truth: And absolutely none of these scripture say that the Holy Spirit is God, or the 3rd person of the Trinity. Acts DOES say at verse 2:13 that holy spirit will be poured out on men. Now that sounds more like a power/breath than a person.
The Scriptures are clear
that the Holy Spirit has a "will" (1
Cor. 12:11; Heb. 2:4),
and since "will" denotes "ego" or
personality, as opposed
to the neuter (animals), obviously the
Spirit is a person.
We have also seen from Peter's words that
when Ananias lied to
the Holy Spirit, he lied to Jehovah (Acts
5:4). Both the thirteenth
chapter of Acts and Isaiah 48 add to
the proof that the Holy
Spirit is God, since He answers the
prayers of the Apostles
(Acts 13:1-4) and is designated Deity by
the prophet Isaiah (48:16).
Even the Watchtower admits that God
alone answers prayer.
The Bible, then, does
indeed teach that the Spirit is a Person
and that He is called
God. It is therefore apparent that there
are three Persons mentioned
in Scripture and that they are all
identified as God: Yet
there is only one true God (Isa. 45:22).
Truth:
Yes, some personality is given the spirit, but then so is "Sin" and "Death"
at Romans 5:21. But what about "neuter"? Spirit at john 14:16 is neuter.
"SIN" at 1 John 5:16 is feminine...so much for that argument.
Are
there 3 persons mentioned in the Scripture as God, but yet there is only
One God? I could take that argument another way. Satan is referred to as
God at 1 Corinthians 4:4, Moses is referred to as God at Exodus 7:1, Jehovah
is God at Psalms 83:18...but there is only One God. Something is rotten
in the state of Denmark here. You have to realize that in Bible times,
the term "God" was used quite loosely. Judges were gods at Psalms 82, so
were angels at Psalms 8:5,6; 97:7; 138:1.
"LORDS MANY AND GODS MANY"
There are two other important points that must be mentioned.
Jehovah's Witnesses claim
that, because the Bible designates some
beings and idols as
"gods," it is proper for them to call Jesus
"a god" and worship
him as the angels did (Heb. 1:6). This is an
important point and
must be clarified.
Of course, it is true
that God made Moses appear as a god in
Pharoah's eyes (Exodus
7:1). Moreover, Satan, certain of the
judges of Israel and
pagan idols are described as "gods" in the
Bible (John 14:30, Psalms
82:6, 1 Cor. 8:4, 10:19, 2 Cor. 4:4).
Nevertheless, they are
not deity by nature, as the Apostle Paul
flatly states (Gal.
4:8). They are "gods" by angelic or human
acclamation, and God
addresses them in that context. Worshiping
a thing can make it
your god; but it is not God by nature - for
by nature there is only
one God (1 Cor. 8:4-6, 1 Tim. 2:5).
When this cardinal distinction
is made in Scripture, the
Watchtower's doctrine
is refuted, and the problem of the usage of
the term "gods" or "a
god" disappears.
Truth:
Most of the above is true. But it still addresses that the Bible uses the
term "God" in a relative sense.
Why
does no one worship the Spirit?
Did
you know that when Jehovah talked to Moses in the Burning Bush, that was
really an Angel. See Exodus 3:2. Why? Because we cannot see God(John 1:18;
Exodus 33:20). Why then can people see Jesus? The problem of the usage
of the Trinity's "fully God and fully man" disappears.
COMPOSITE UNITY AND THE TRIPLE POINT
The second important
fact to be remembered is that of the meaning
of the term "one."
"How is it possible,"
say the Jehovah's witnesses, "for Jehovah
to be three and one
both at the same time? It is illogical,
unreasonable and confusing;
and God is not the author of
confusion!"
To answer this all-too-common
objection, it should be kept in
mind that the word "one"
can denote composite as well as solitary
unity. For instance,
in Genesis (chapter 2), Adam and Eve are
called one flesh; and
Numbers (chapter 13) speaks of "one" when
the context indicates
that is was in reality a cluster of grapes
hanging from one stem.
Here are bona fide instances of composite
unity.
Truth: And none of the above is TRIUNE. Adam and Eve and a cluster of grapes are NOT God.
The same Hebrew word,
"echod" (one) is used in both cases,
however, even as it
is in Deuteronomy 6:4 where we are told that
God is "One." The evident
composite unity indicated here is
confirmed in the New
Testament. Our Lord spoke of composite
unity where marriage
is concerned (Mk. 10:8); so He, too, was
aware of this important
distinction. See also Joshua 9:2; Judges
20:1; 2 Chron. 30:12;
Isaiah 65:25; Nehemiah 7:66 and Ezra 6:20
for further instances
of composite unity.
Truth: None of the above scriptures mention a trinity or triad of any sort. The word ECHOD(One) can be composite, but that is just how the hebrew language is. Even Abraham is referred to as ONE(Echod) at Isaiah 51:2.
Finally, let us illustrate
how it is both logically and
rationally possible
for three to be one and one to be three
simultaneously, since
Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT believe this is
possible.
Truth: I have to hear this...I want to try it at the bank.
It is a well-known fact
of chemistry that plain water, when
placed in a vacuum under
230 millimeters of gas pressure and at a
temperature of 0 degrees
Centigrade, solidifies into ice at the
bottom of the container,
remains liquid in the center and
vaporizes at the top!
At a given instant the same water is both
solid, liquid and gas,
yet all three are manifestations of the
same basic substance
or nature: H2O - hydrogen: two parts;
oxygen: one.
If one of the simplest
of all created substances can be three in
manifested form and
yet remain one in nature, then the Creator of
that substance can surely
be Father, Son and Holy Spirit - three
Persons and one Nature
- without any violation of logic or reason
whatever if He so wills.
Truth:
There you have it folks. The God of "orthodox" Chrisitianity is........
a drip. Actually, water is mainly Hydrogen and Oxygen."2" In other words,
"orthodox" Christianity chooses texts that mention mainly the Father and
the Son, and they pass these off as triune. So, in some respects, H2O works
in that way. But then, maybe Moses is triune, after all he is referred
to as a God, a Prince and a Prophet-all 3 manifestations of the same basic
substance.
Also,
because the h2o molecules can only be in one form at one time (either liquid,
ice, steam), and under the same conditions, the argument is actually Sabellian,
not trinitarian. Anyone who supports this theory is actually arguing in
favor of a heresy that was long ago condemned.
Did
you know that the Pagan world before Christ had its Trinities also?
See
http://www.mv.com/ipusers/butterfly/babylon/00index.htm
By
mixing Paganism with Chrisitianity, the pure message of God has become
....INSOLUBLE.
Incidentally,
Athanasius did the same thing with HOMOOUSIOUS(of the same substance/essence).
He used 2 coins to show that they were made of the same stuff(copper),
but the problem was still the fact that it was 2 coins
God is not triples (1+1+1)
- He is triune (1x1x1), and He has
revealed Himself fully
in the Person of our Lord, Jesus Christ
(Col. 2:9; John 14:9).
Truth:
This is mathematical idiocy. 1x1x1 would mean the Father x the Father x
the Father.(Any trinitarian will tell you that the Father is not the Son
is not the holy spirit). Whereas, the Father + the Son + the Holy Spirit=
3.
Colossians
2:9 is very ambiguous. Consider this: "for it is in him that the immensity
of the Divine Wisdom corporately dwells" Schonfield...see also TEV.
John
14:9? Jesus makes this straight at verse 28 where he say the "Father is
greater than I"
Trinitarian
christianity is confused by 1500 years of false doctrine. It started with
its beginning under the Sun-Worshipping Emperor Constantine in 325 AD.
Regarding the Nicene Council and those that followed, Hans Kung/Christianity
says, "The conciliar
decisions
plunged Chrisitianity into undreamed-of theological confusions with constant
entanglements
in
church politics. They produced splits and sparked off a persecution of
heretics unique in the history
of
religion. This is what Christianity became as it changed its nature from
a persecuted minority to a
majority
persecuting others."
What a Satanic legacy this doctrine has had.
The
book, "Knowing the Truth about The Trinity" by Ankerberg and Weldon quote
Walter Martin right at the beginning of their preface. But on page 9 it
says that the "Trinity is incomprehensible...it is impossible that a finite
creature could ever fully comprehend an infinite being."
Yet
at John 17:3 it says, "And this is eternal life, that they know thee the
only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." If eternal life depends
on our understanding of God, but our God is an incomprehensible Trinity,
then we are all in trouble. But I can sit down with my son and say, "Son,
I love you. You are my son, and I am your Father. Now you understand God
the Father, and his relationship with Jesus Christ his Son." See John 17:3